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Jayson versus Jason

Over the last few weeks we’ve heard that Jayson Werth should or will get a contract that compares well to recent contracts signed by Matt Holliday and Jason Bay. All three of those guys are about the same age — Werth and Bay will be entering their 32-year-old season while Holliday will be entering his 31-year-old season. Here’s how some of their offensive numbers for the past three seasons compare:

Holliday 1968 122 77 315/397/528 925
Werth 1810 88 87 279/376/513 889
Bay 1709 84 73 273/371/499 870

The first thing is that it’s almost impossible to deny that, as good as Werth is, Holliday is a better offensive player. By OPS+, Holliday was better than Werth in 2008 (138 to 121), 2009 (139 to 129) and 2010 (149 to 145).

2008, 2009 and 2010 and the only years that Werth has been a full time player. Prior to 2008, Werth had never gotten 400 plate appearances in a season. Here’s how the numbers for the trio’s careers prior to 2008 compare:

Holliday 2345 150 103 319/380/556 935
Werth 1129 50 131 259/352/430 782
Bay 2589 129 118 281/375/515 890

Werth isn’t close to either Bay or Holliday when you compare what the three players did offensively before 2008.

Finally, there’s no question that Werth was a whole lot better than Jason Bay in 2010. That wasn’t the case in 2008 and 2009, though. Here’s some of the numbers for those two for ’08 and ’09 combined:

Werth 1158 42 60 270/369/503 871
Bay 1308 64 67 277/378/529 907

Again, Werth was way better than Bay in 2010. But there’s no case he was better than Bay prior to 2008 and no case he was better than Bay 2008-2009.

The other thing you need to consider is simply that the fact that Holliday and Bay got the contracts they did doesn’t necessarily mean they’re good contracts. Just about nobody, for example, can feeling real good about the four year, $66 million deal that Bay got before his miserable 2010 season. St Louis is probably feeling a little better about the seven years, $120 million for Holliday, but there’s a chance they might be feeling differently by the time 2015 rolls around.

Roy Halladay won the NL Cy Young award.

The Marlins traded Dan Uggla to the Braves for Omar Infante and Mike Dunn. Really they did.

It looks like the Fish will sign catcher John Buck.

Charlie Manuel fifth for Manager of the Year.

Phils deep-six the Pirates

The Phillies jumped out to a 6-0 lead early last night in Pittsburgh for the second time in two days. After leading 6-0 in the fourth on Friday, the Phils were up 6-0 in the second on Saturday. Unlike Eaton on Friday, Kyle Kendrick found himself on the mound, although briefly, in the eighth inning and the Phils rolled to an 8-4 win.

The game also saw the return of Ryan Howard to the starting lineup after two days starting the game on the bench. Howard stroked a two-run homer in the first, but ended the day 1-for-4 with a walk and two more strikeouts.

The Phillies beat the Pittsburgh Pirates last night, winning 8-4 to improve to 14-11. It’s the third win in a row for the Phils who are three games over .500 for the first time on the year.

Kendrick got the start for the Phils and went seven innings, allowing four runs on seven hits. Only three of the runs were earned. Three of the hits went for extra-bases, two doubles and a home run. He struck out two and didn’t walk a batter.

Kendrick got two ground balls and a strikeout in the first, pitching with a 5-0 lead.

Up 6-0 in the second, he set the Pirates down 1-2-3.

Kendrick hit Brian Bixler with one out in the third, giving the Pirates their first base runner. Pitcher Phil Dumatrait bunted Bixler to second for the second out down six runs. Nate McLouth followed with a single into center and the Pirates were on the board at 6-1 as Bixler scored. Freddy Sanchez followed with a double into right. Jenkins had no chance to throw out McLouth, who scored on the play to make it 6-2, but missed the cutoff man completely. It didn’t matter, though, cause Jason Bay grounded to third to end the inning.

Xavier Nady ripped a double into left with one out in the fourth. Doug Mientkiewicz flew to center for the second out before Ronny Paulino smashed a ground ball to short, but Bruntlett made a nice play to end the inning.

Kendrick threw a 1-2-3 fifth and a 1-2-3 sixth.

Mientkiewicz singled into center with one out in the seventh. Paulino was next and hit a dribbler between the mound and the third base line. Kendrick got on it fast, but threw wildly to first. Paulino went to second on the error and the Pirates had runners on second and third with one out. Bixler grounded out to second and Mientkiewicz scored to make it 8-3. Jose Bautista hit for the pitcher and grounded out to second to end the inning.

Nate McLouth hit Kendrick’s first pitch of the eighth out for a home run that cut the Phillies’ lead to 8-4. Sanchez followed with a single and Seanez relieved Kendrick. Bay hit a ground ball to short and Sanchez was forced at second for the first out. LaRoche singled into right, moving Bay to third.

Madson threw a quick 1-2-3 ninth.

Seanez threw just ten pitches, Madson six. The single by LaRoche is the only hit Seanez has allowed on the season in eight innings, although he has walked seven.

The Phillies lineup against righty Matt Morris went (1) Werth (2) Dobbs (3) Utley (4) Howard (5) Burrell (6) Jenkins (7) Coste (8) Bruntlett. Howard returns to the lineup after two days starting the game on the bench. Utley goes back to second after playing first the night before. Dobbs gets another start at third against a righty and Coste gets to catch again after a big game with the bat on Friday night.

Utley singled to right with two outs in the first. Howard was next and hit a 1-2 pitch out to center field, putting the Phils up 2-0. Jenkins followed and hit a ball hard to right and off the glove of Nady for a two-base error. Burrell scored and it put the Phils up 3-0. Coste was hit by a pitch, putting men on first and second for Bruntlett. Bruntlett came through with a single into center. Jenkins scored to make it 4-0 and Coste went to second. Kendrick hit a ground ball to short that Bixler booted for the Pirates second error of the inning. Coste scored to make it 5-0 with Bruntlett moving to second. Werth flew to right for the third out.

With one out in the second, Utley singled and Howard moved him to second with a walk. Burrell popped out for the second out, but Jenkins singled into left and Utley scored to make it 6-0. Howard went to second. Lefty Phil Dumatrait relieved Morris and got Coste on a popup to short to end the frame.

The Phils went 1-2-3 in the third. Dumatrait struck out Utley and Howard in a 1-2-3 fourth.

They didn’t figure out Dumatrait in the fifth, either, as Burrell, Jenkins and Coste went down in order. Ten in a row for Dumatrait.

Bruntlett started the sixth with a routine ground ball to short that Bixler booted again for his second error of the night. Kendrick tried to bunt him to second but couldn’t, striking out for the first out. Werth followed with a double down the line in left and Bruntlett was waived home. Close play at the plate and Bruntlett may have been out if Paulino hadn’t dropped the ball. A little too aggressive for me with one out, but it made the score 7-2. Feliz was next and he split the gap in right center with another double. Werth scored and it was 8-2. The righties Werth and Feliz finally get through against the lefty Doumatrait. Utley followed with a walk that put men on first and second, but Howard struck out for the second out. Righty Franquelis Osoria came in to pitch to Burrell and got a ground ball to third to end the frame.

Jenkins singled to start the seventh, but Coste followed and hit into a double-play. Bruntlett grounded to first for the third out.

Kendrick hit for himself to lead off the eighth having thrown 93 pitches and the Phils up 8-3. He drew a walk and moved to second on a wild pitch before Werth walked, putting men on first and second with nobody out. Feliz lined to second and Kendrick was doubled off of second. Utley struck out to end the frame.

Burrell and Jenkins struck out in a 1-2-3 ninth.

Werth was 1-for-4 with a double and a walk.

Dobbs was 0-for-3.

Utley 2-for-4 with a walk He’s hitting .374.

Howard 1-for-4 with a home run and a walk and struck out twice.

Burrell 1-for-5 and left four men on base.

Jenkins 2-for-5 with an RBI.

Coste 0-for-3.

Bruntlett 1-for-4 with an RBI.

Brett Myers (2-1, 4.78) faces lefty Paul Maholm (1-2, 4.22) this afternoon. Righties are hitting .328 against righties on the year, lefties .238. He’s walked just six in his 21 1/3 innings and hasn’t gotten an out in the seventh inning this year. He faced the Phils once last season and allowed six runs over seven innings. In his last four starts, Myers has allowed eight home runs in 27 innings. Lefties are hitting .180 against him and righties .325.

Phils jump out to an early lead, hold off Eaton

Team W-L R R/G NL Rank R OPS (NL) SB CS
PIT 9-13 97 4.41 10 669 (13) 6 6
PHI 12-11 109 4.74 T-4 799 (4) 10 4

Team W-L RA RA/G NL Rank RA Starter ERA Pen ERA
PIT 9-13 139 6.32 16 5.98 (16) 5.25 (15)
PHI 12-11 100 4.35 8 4.22 (10) 2.60 (1)

Led by five-hitter Chris Coste, the Phils found themselves ahead 6-0 in the fourth inning last night. They got out with a win, but not the easy win you might have hoped for. For his second straight start, Adam Eaton appeared to be cruising but then ran into an inning where he was just lit up. Last night it was the fourth he couldn’t get out of and it meant the Phils had to call on their pen to throw 5 1/3 innings to escape with a 6-5 win.

The Phillies beat the Pittsburgh Pirates last night, winning 6-5 to improve to 13-11 on the year. They are two games over .500 for the first time this season.

Eaton got the start for the Phillies and went 3 2/3 innings, allowing three runs on five hits and two walks. Four of the hits went for extra-bases, three doubles and a home run. He struck out three.

Eaton started the first with a 2-0 lead and set the Pirates down 1-2-3.

Ryan Doumit walked to start the second. Eaton struck out Xavier Nady for the first out and Adam LaRoche hit into a double-play to end the inning. Nice play by Utley at first to start the double-play.

The Phils led 4-0 in the third. Brian Bixler singled with one out, but Eaton got the next two to end the inning.

Eaton started the fourth with a 6-0 lead. Jason Bay homered with one out to make it 6-1 and Doumit and Nady followed with back-to-back doubles. 6-2. Nady moved to third on a ground out by LaRoche before Doug Mientkiewicz doubled into right, scoring Nady to make it 6-3. Eaton walked Brian Bixler on four pitches and Durbin came in to pitch to pitcher Zach Duke. Duke lined to third for the third out.

Durbin got the first two in the fifth before Bay walked and Doumit followed with a double that moved him to third. Nady was next and he singled into left, scoring both runners to cut the Phillies’ lead to 6-5. Durbin struck out LaRoche to end the inning.

Durbin came back to throw a 1-2-3 sixth.

Gordon started the seventh after throwing an inning the day before. He walked the leadoff man Nate McLouth to start the inning, but got the next three. Real surprised to see Gordon to go on back-to-back days with Madson, Seanez and Condrey pitching so little for the Phils.

Romero pitched the eighth and got the first two before walking Jose Bautista, who pinch-hit for Mientkiewicz. Bixler was next and he reached on an infield single slowly hit to third. It put the trying run on second for pinch-hitter Ronny Paulino, but Paulino grounded to third to end the inning.

Lidge struck out McLouth and Bay in a 1-2-3 ninth.

Durbin threw 33 pitches, Gordon 22 and Romero 21 as the Phils have to call on their pen to throw 5 2/3 innings. Lidge threw 11 pitches to get his fifth save and keep his ERA at 0.00.

The Phillies’ lineup against left Zach Duke went (1) Taguchi (2) Werth (3) Utley (4) Burrell (5) Coste (6) Feliz (7) Bruntlett (8) Harman. Howard on the bench. Utley at first. Coste catches and hits fifth. Brad Harman makes his first career start and plays second. We knew Howard was going to be on the bench, but I was a little surprised it wasn’t Coste at first and Ruiz behind the plate instead of Utley at first, Harman at second and Coste catching.

Werth and Utley walked back-to-back with one out in the first. Burrell struck out for the second out, but Coste followed with a double that scored both runners and put the Phils up 2-0. Feliz grounded to short for the third out.

The Phils went 1-2-3 in the second.

Werth homered to center with one out in the third. 3-0. Burrell doubled with two down and Coste followed with a single off the glove of the shortstop Bixler. Burrell scored to make it 4-0. Feliz grounded to short for the third out.

Bruntlett started the fourth with a single and Harman followed and smashed a double to left-center. Bruntlett scored and it was 5-0. Eaton tried to bunt Harman to third, but was called out on on batter interference for the first out of the inning. Taguchi flew to left for the second out before Werth drove Harman in with a single to left. 6-0. Utley grounded to short for the third out.

The Phils went 1-2-3 in the fifth.

Durbin and Taguchi singled back-to-back with two outs in the sixth, but Werth struck out looking to leave them stranded at first and third.

With one out in the seventh, Burrell walked and Coste followed with a single that moved him to second. Bohn ran for Burrell at second and Feliz hit a ground ball to third. Coste was forced at second for the second out, leaving men on first and third with two outs for Bruntlett. Bruntlett grounded to second to end the frame.

With righty Tyler Yates on the mound for the Pirates, Dobbs hit for Harman to start the eighth and drew a walk. The next three Phils went down behind him, including Ryan Howard, who struck out yet again pinch-hitting against Damaso Marte.

The Phils went 1-2-3 in the ninth.

Taguchi was 1-for-5.

Werth was 2-for-4 with a walk, a home run and two RBI.

Utley was 0-for-4 with a walk.

Burrell was 1-for-3 with a walk.

Coste was 3-for-5 with a double and three RBI.

Feliz was 0-for-4 and left four men on base.

Bruntlett was 1-for-4.

Harman 1-for-4 with a double and an RBI.

Kyle Kendrick (1-2, 5.59) faces righty Matt Morris (0-3, 9.15) tonight. Morris has been terrible this season. Opponents are hitting .380 against him and he’s allowed five home runs in 20 2/3 innings. He wasn’t great last year, throwing to a 4.89 ERA with a 1.52 ratio in his 32 combined starts with the Giants and the Pirates. He did have success in two starts against the Phils, though, going 2-0 with a 1.38 ERA in 13 innings. He faced the Phils on May 4 and June 1. On June 1 he held them to one hit, a single by Victorino, over six shutout innings. Kendrick has struggled in three of his four starts this season. Lefties are hitting .371 against him, righties .239. He faced the Pirates once last season, on July 29, and was really good. He held them to a run on six hits over seven innings.

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