The table below shows how Revere’s numbers compare to the numbers of fellow left-handed speedsters Juan Pierre and Michael Bourn in their age 23 and 24 seasons. Also included are the numbers for Pierre and Bourn for their next two years as well as what they did in 2011 and 2012 (Revere’s age 23 and 24 seasons).
| Player and age | Year | PA | AVG/OBP/SLG | wOBA | bWAR | fWAR | UZR/150 in OF |
| Revere 23 | ’11 | 481 | 267/310/309 | .278 (-.038) | 0.7 | 2.0 | 14.4 |
| Revere 24 | ’12 | 553 | 294/333/342 | .300 (-.015) | 2.4 | 3.4 | 18.6 |
| Pierre 23 | ’01 | 683 | 327/378/415 | .350 (+.023) | 2.9 | 2.6 | UKN |
| Pierre 24 | ’02 | 640 | 287/332/343 | .304 (-.022) | 0.4 | 2.3 | 15.3 |
| Pierre 25 | ’03 | 747 | 305/361/373 | .328 (+-0) | 3.4 | 4.7 | 9.1 |
| Pierre 26 | ’04 | 748 | 326/374/407 | .345 (+.015) | 3.7 | 4.4 | -4.9 |
| Pierre 33 | ’11 | 711 | 279/329/327 | .296 (-.020) | -0.8 | -0.5 | -10.7 |
| Pierre 34 | ’12 | 439 | 307/351/371 | .320 (+.005) | 1.9 | 1.7 | -0.4 |
| Bourn 23 | ’06 | 11 | - | - | - | - | - |
| Bourn 24 | ’07 | 133 | 277/348/378 | .320 (-.011) | 0.9 | 1.2 | 22.9 |
| Bourn 25 | ’08 | 514 | 229/288/300 | .267 (-.061) | 0.7 | 0.2 | 4.0 |
| Bourn 26 | ’09 | 678 | 285/354/384 | .330 (+.001) | 4.7 | 4.9 | 9.9 |
| Bourn 28 | ’11 | 722 | 294/349/386 | .325 (+.009) | 3.0 | 4.1 | -6.2 |
| Bourn 29 | ’12 | 703 | 274/348/391 | .326 (+.011) | 6.0 | 6.4 | 22.5 |
For wOBA, it’s important to remember that the average wOBA changes from year to year. So, for example, the 2011 wOBA line for Revere means that his actual wOBA for 2011 was .278 and that .278 was .038 lower than the average wOBA for the year of .316.
You can see the constants that FanGraphs uses for calculating wOBA here.
Bourn barely played at all when he was 23 or 24. Pierre was better offensively than Revere in his 23 and 24-year-old seasons, but not as good defensively, at least by UZR/150 in all outfield positions combined.
If you total up the WAR for Revere and Pierre for their age 23 and 24 seasons, Revere is at 3.1 bWAR and Pierre 3.3. By fWAR, Revere tops Pierre 5.4 to 4.9. Important to remember is that Pierre got a lot more chances to play and accumulate WAR in his age 23 and 24 seasons, getting 289 more plate appearances in the two years combined and playing 468 1/3 more innings in the outfield.
Bourn, notably, got just 144 plate appearances through his age 24 seasons and then was terrible in his age 25 season before putting up a big year with the Astros at age 26 (285/354/384 with 61 stolen bases).
Revere has displayed no power to date, even relative to the light-hitting Pierre and Bourn, and almost surely never will.
His isolated power in 2011 was .042. That was 175 of 175 players across both leagues with 450 or more plate appearances. Pierre was 174th on that list at .049.
In 2012, Revere was at .049. That was 114th of 114 players across both leagues with 550 or more plate appearances. Nobody else with 550 or more PA came close to showing that little power last year. Yunel Escobar was 113th of 114 and his isolated power was .091.
If you remove the 2006 season for Bourn in which he got 11 plate appearances, there are 13 seasons between Pierre, Bourn and Revere on the table above. Revere’s best mark for isolated power over the last two seasons is .049. There’s only one season in which either Pierre or Bourn has an isolated power worse than .049 — Pierre put up an .049 in 2011 on his way to a miserable, negative WAR season.
Bourn’s isolated power in 2012 was .117, which is the highest mark for any of the 13 seasons. Between both leagues, there were 148 players who got at least 500 plate appearances in 2012. Bourn’s isolated power of .117 was 122nd best of the 148.
The Phillies traded relievers Josh Lindblom and Lisalverto Bonilla to Texas for Michael Young. The linked article also suggests that the Rangers will pay about $10 million of Young’s 2012 salary, leaving $6 million for the Phillies to pay. It also suggests the Phillies paid Young $1.2 million to waive his no-trade clause and will give him a new no-trade clause.
Young was terrible in 2012. If he’s that bad again in 2013, that’s not going to work out for the Phillies. I like the deal, though, cause he still has upside and willing be playing for his next contract. Linblom’s numbers out of Dodger Stadium were never real impressive.
This article says that after the trade of Worley, the Phillies are looking for a low-risk, high-reward type guy to help fill out the rotation and mentions John Lannan, Dallas Braden, Carlos Zambrano and Roy Oswalt.


December 10th, 2012 on 12:14 pm
Probably I’m just seeing what I want to see, but I see two full seasons of relative mediocrity followed by a breakout year. I think you’re right in that we’re not going to change the kind of player Revere is much, but if he can get his average up a few more points and keep his steal rate up, he’ll be on 2nd on a single much of the time anyway, so it won’t matter too much if it was a double to begin with. Just that you don’t want this guy hitting anywhere with men on base, I would think, so leadoff would be the spot.
December 10th, 2012 on 1:20 pm
Let’s hope you’re right.
Notably, in his age 26 season, the first year when Bourn was really good, he also didn’t hit for any power. He hit just three home runs for the season, although he did have 12 triples. In the same way, Pierre was really solid in 2003 and 2004 and hit just four home runs in those years combined. So there’s hope.
I still think we should hope he’s just outrageously fantastic defensively, though.
December 10th, 2012 on 1:23 pm
I think my pinstripe-colored glasses are taking “outrageously fantastic defensively” as a given and just working on his offense.
December 10th, 2012 on 5:32 pm
In addition to what we hope for from Revere about defense, I’m hoping Amaro ponies up for a corner out fielder with pop. I also hope Young has a contract year that impresses the heck out of all of us.
The thing I keep hearing about Revere that is worrisome is about his arm. No assists from center field in 2012?
December 10th, 2012 on 9:51 pm
Question, guys. Next year, Halliday, Utley, and Ruiz are all in the last year of their contracts. If 2013 is the last year for this team, isn’t this the year to go over the cap to make it work?
December 11th, 2012 on 10:42 am
Sounds good to me. I think if the Phils aren’t good again in 2013, the team is going to look a whole lot different in 2014.