Comments on: Center fielders of attention

By: egrissom

egrissom — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:41:22 +0000

Still like the trade, but the thing that worries me about Revere as a hitter is that not only does he not have any power, he doesn’t have any chance to develop any power.

He can maybe raise his walk rate a little. Some years he might hit for a high average. But he’s always going to be severely limited in terms of what he can do offensively.

Last year, for example, he hit .294. I believe he can hit .294 again, maybe better. But using almost any measure, he was a well below average offensive player even last year.

So again, let’s hope he’s really, really good at defense.

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:10:50 +0000

With his stealing and baserunning, he’s in scoring position everywhere except home plate. So it doesn’t bother me if he’s a singles machine.

.. I do realize that an OBP of .400 might be asking a bit much though

By: schmenkman

schmenkman — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:44:35 +0000

@Jim: “I don’t need him to hit for power. I just want him to on-base .400-.450 or so from the leadoff spot and let JRoll hit behind him.”

First, don’t we want him to be a good overall hitter, in which case it would help to have some power?

Secondly, with his low walk rate, in order to get on base at a .400 clip he would need a .364 batting average.

For a .450 OBP he would need a .418 batting average.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the trade, but we need to keep expectations reasonable.

And by the way, his walk rate is low in spite of him being pretty disciplined, but pitchers pound the strike zone because they’re more concerned about him getting on by a walk then they are of him getting an extra base hit.

Most of his value, at least in the near term, will come from his fielding, and to a lesser extent, his base running.

By: Drew

Drew — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 19:36:45 +0000

Oh man, Jim. You’re so right about the OF. There has to be someone yet to be obtained who can hit 20+ dingers.

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 17:52:48 +0000

I wanted this trade last spring. I hope it still works out as well as I wanted it to last year. If Cody Ashe has a chance to be the real deal, Young would be a good stopgap. And certainly beats Frandsen or Galvis (both of whom I still like). I’m not thrilled with the choice of Lindblom in the trade but I’ll get over it.

The infield is probably set now – Howard, Utley, Rollins, Young, Frandsen, Galvis, Ruiz, Kratz. Some fill-in guy backing up Kratz for 6 weeks or so.

The outfield still needs some help – Player To Be Named Later, Revere, Brown, Nix, Mayberry or Rule5Guy. If PTBNL is Mayberry or Rule5Guy, it’s still going to be a rough season.

And of course, now we need more bullpen help to go with our need for more starter depth.

By: Drew

Drew — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 01:45:45 +0000

Well, now. Center and third are covered next year for about 7 million or so? We have unexpected money for the corner, and 8th inning.

Of course, we need a starter now too, huh.

By: egrissom

egrissom — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 01:45:06 +0000

Yup. I think this is another good move for the Phillies. Don’t think we’ll miss Lindblom much and $6 million for a year of Young playing for a new contract could work out well. Obviously not if he was as bad as he was in 2012. But I think he’ll be a lot better than that for the Phils. Let’s hope he can play third.

By: Drew

Drew — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:37:58 +0000

Josh Lindblom and a minor league arm go to Texas.

By: Drew

Drew — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:10:16 +0000

I’m seeing that Michael Young has approved the trade. We have a new third baseman. And second and first, too.

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 22:58:36 +0000

I’m eagerly waiting the comparison post next week, but my instinct tells me Revere will be a bona fide leadoff hitter in 2014 or 2015. For 2013, we better find another outfielder and/or third baseman.