Not long ago, the Phillies were pretty good defensively in the outfield compared to the rest of baseball. Not so much anymore. Here’s the UZR/150 for all Phillie outfielders combined for the last six seasons as calculated by FanGraphs and how it compares to teams across both leagues:
| Year | UZR/150 all PHI OF | Rank MLB |
| 2007 | 4.1 | 8 |
| 2008 | 8.0 | 7 |
| 2009 | 0.7 | 13 |
| 2010 | -5.5 | 25 |
| 2011 | -8.4 | 28 |
| 2012 | -4.8 | 25 |
So, from 2007 through 2009, the Phillies were in the top half of teams defensively in the outfield across both leagues by UZR/150. Over the last three years they have been no better than 25th.
There’s only 30 teams out there, so being 25th or worse for three straight years counts as a problem. It’s arguable that the Phillies have had the worst outfield defense in baseball over the past three seasons. It’s kind of a pick ‘em between the Phils, Orioles and Mets.
Notably, ugly outfield defense or not, the Phillies went 199-125 in 2010 and 2011 combined. I think it’s safe to say they were good at other things.
Using Baseball-Reference’s dWAR, only twice in the past three seasons have the Phillies had a player who both played at least 100 outfield innings for the team in a season and posted a dWAR greater than zero for the year. Victorino did it both times, putting up a 0.5 in 1,150 innings in 2011 after putting up a 0.4 in 1,265 innings in 2010.
In 2007, Victorino (16.6 UZR/150 in the outfield, mostly right), Bourn (22.9 in about 300 innings, about 200 of which were in left) and Werth (30.5 in 446 innings in right, 127 2/3 innings in left and two in center) were all outstanding defensively. Rowand played more than 94% of the defensive innings in center field and posted UZR/150 in the outfield of 4.5. Burrell played just over 70% of the innings in left, dragging down the numbers for the team overall with his UZR/150 in the outfield of -29.6. Despite that they were still eighth-best in the category among all MLB teams.
In 2008, Victorino moved over from right, where he had been very good defensively, to center. He was very good there as well, playing about 82.5% of the innings in center with an UZR/150 in the outfield for the year of 5.8 — a little better than Rowand’s 4.5 from 2007. Werth and Jenkins combined to get about 90% of the innings in right in 2008 and were good defensively. Werth was great with an outfield UZR/150 mark of 28.5. Jenkins was very good, too, playing to an UZR/150 of 15.2 in 642 outfield innings. Burrell continued to be the guy in left, playing about 83% of the innings there. He was still bad defensively, -12.3 in the outfield for the year, but that was still a big improvement over his 2007 mark of -29.6. Overall, by UZR/150, the Phillies popped up to seventh-best across both leagues, their best mark for the six seasons presented in the table above.
In 2009, their UZR/150 dropped from 8.0 in the previous year to 0.7. Jenkins was gone and so was Burrell. The Phillies went Ibanez, Victorino and Werth from left to right on most days. Ibanez was a big improvement over Burrell in left, at least as calculated by UZR/150. He played about 77% of the innings in left and posted an UZR/150 for the year of 4.9 in the outfield, which was a huge improvement over the big negative numbers Burrell had put up in the two previous seasons. Victorino manned center and his numbers were way down as he oddly posted a UZR/150 for the year in the outfield of -5.6, which was, by far, the worst mark of his career. UZR/150 suggests that Werth didn’t have nearly the impact defensively he had in the two previous seasons, but he still put up a solid 4.4 for the year in the outfield. Overall, thanks to the replacement of Burrell with Ibanez, the Phillies had a huge change to improve on their overall numbers from 2008. Didn’t work out that way as both Victorino and Werth played a lot of innings and each found themselves off their pace from the previous year.
Things got worse in 2010 as the Phils dropped from thirteenth all the way to twenty-fifth. They still primarily went Ibanez, Victorino, Werth left to right. Victorino improved on his 2009 number, up to 2.8 for the year in his 1,265 1/3 outfield innings. But Werth and Ibanez were both worse. After five straight years of at least 575 outfield innings with an UZR/150 in the outfield of 4.4 or better, Werth’s UZR/150 in the outfield plunged to -7.8 over 1,342 innings. Ibanez, who had posted a 4.9 in 2009, saw his mark drop to -7.2. For the year, Victorino improved on his ’09 numbers, but Ibanez and Werth both saw theirs take a huge dive. The Phillies wound up near the bottom of the league in UZR/150 for their outfielders as a result.
2011 was a nightmare defensively for the Phillies in the outfield, the worst year of the six as their UZR/150 for all outfielders dropped to 28th in the league. Only the Mets and Orioles were worse — notably, the Mets were worse in large part because Angel Pagan was their center fielder and he was awful, posting a UZR/150 for the year in the outfield of -16.1. Ibanez was still the primary guy for the Phils in left and Victorino in center. Victorino was still good, putting up a 5.7 UZR/150 for the season. Ibanez went from real bad, -7.2, to terrible, posting a Burrell-like -21.8. Right field was shared by three guys in Pence, Brown and Francisco, all of who ended the year having played about 30% of the innings for the Phillies defensively in right. Pence played about 32.7%, Brown 30.5% and Francisco 30.1%. Pence was very good defensively for the Phils when he played, putting up an 8.6 for the year with the team. Brown and Francisco were both terrible — Brown’s mark for the year was -26.0 and Francisco’s was -16.1. For the season, Ibanez was terrible in left, Victorino solid in center and Pence, Brown and Francisco split right almost equally, with Brown and Francisco being atrocious while Pence was very good. Put it all together and the Phils were the 28th-best team in the league for UZR/150 in the outfield.
Things were still atrocious in 2012, if slightly improved from the two previous seasons. Pierre was the primary guy in left, getting about 55% of the innings. He was backed up by Mayberry, who got about 23% of the innings at the position. Pierre put up a better-than-expected mark of -0.4 and Mayberry was solid when playing left with a 5.4. Victorino was the primary guy in center until he was traded. He wound up playing about 60% of the team’s innings in center field for the season and posting an UZR/150 of 0.9. Mayberry took over the gig after Victorino was traded and was terrible, posting a -20.7 UZR/150 in center in 474 1/3 innings. Pence played most of the innings in right field for the Phils in 2012, about 62%, and was awful in right when he did play, posting an UZR/150 with the Phils of -13.5, well off his 2011 mark. Domonic Brown was the other guy to see a lot of time in right, playing about 21% of the defensive innings at the position. He was significantly better than he was in 2012, but still not good, putting up a UZR/150 of -7.9 for the year.
Looking to 2013, there are still big questions to be answered about the makeup of the Phillie outfield. The Phils appear to have five guys in-house in the mix in Brown, Mayberry, Schierholtz, Nix and Ruf. If you had to pick one of them, most fans would guess that Brown is the player of that group who is likely to play the most defensive outfield innings for the Phils in 2013. And we know he’s been a really bad defensive player so far in his career. I think we also know that Mayberry can put up some ugly defensive numbers in center field — he seems sure to do so if the Phillies give him that opportunity. Schierholtz and Nix have both been pretty good defensively over their careers in the outfield, although neither of them seem likely to see much time in center and it’s a little hard to believe the Phillies think they need to carry both left-handed backup outfielders going in 2013. Ruf is the other guy in that group — if he proves to be a good defensive outfielder in the majors it’s going to surprise a lot of people.
The Phillies finalized a one-year, $850,000 deal with Kevin Frandsen.
Many Marlins appear to be on the move to Toronto, including Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson and Mark Buehrle.
This suggests that Amaro kind of wishes that Ruf would have had more of an opportunity to play at the end of the year, but that Amaro understands Manuel playing Juan Pierre instead. Not sure I completely believe all of that.
At least now the Phillies have a good idea what Juan Pierre brings to the table.
It will be pretty interesting to see if Ruf can play left field — I think he’s going to get some chances to do so with the Phillies in 2013. I’m guessing he can’t in a think Pat Burrell kind of way. So let’s hope for 51 more home runs.


November 14th, 2012 on 10:05 am
I like the Frandsen deal if it means they wind up with two solid outfield bats.
I have to wonder if the Phillies could’ve offered a shinier bag of balls to the Marlins for half of their team.
My gut feeling of Ruf is that he will be Burrell-bad defensively out there based on what I’ve seen and heard. He also won’t be Burrell-good at the plate.
November 14th, 2012 on 10:16 am
Agree everywhere.
I really don’t want to see much of Galvis at third in 2013. I don’t think the Phillies are likely to bring in someone I have much more confidence in than Frandsen to play third barring a trade nobody is talking about.
I can’t see how trading away all their good players could make the Marlins any better.
Actually, on Ruf, I guess I’d predict not as good as Burrell offensively, but not quite as bad defensively. Burrell was pretty amazing bad in left over a lot of innings in some years. Through his age 25 season, Burrell had already hit 82 home runs and slugged .496 over 1,776 plate appearances. Ruf has 37 plate appearances and has already turned 26.
November 14th, 2012 on 10:51 am
I would like to think that the Phils know they’re paying too much money to people with closing windows to commit more than one outfield spot to anyone currently in the organization. But I just don’t know that they know that.
Barring an A-Rod trade involving a ton of cash, we should expect Frandsen to be starting at 3rd and Galvis to be on the bench. Whether or not that’s a problem depends on the outfield configuration. I feel like the different between 0, 1, and 2 outfield additions could be the difference between 50, 75, and 100 win seasons.
November 14th, 2012 on 11:04 am
I fear the Phillies are going to give Galvis a lot of time at third base. That seems like it would be an awful decision. I think the defense is real. But so is the offense. As far as I’m concerned, Galvis can’t hit until he demonstrates he can. .330 in the Venezuelan league doesn’t do it for me.
Frandsen absolutely killed lefties last year. Without an addition, I think we might see more of Galvis against righties than Frandsen, despite the fact that the switch-hitter can’t hit righties and put up a 208/231/331 mark against them in 2012. That’s really bad.
Also, Frandsen isn’t going to hit .400 against lefties in 2013.
I think the Phillies would win a lot more than 50 games even with no significant additions. They do need some good outfielders, though.
November 14th, 2012 on 3:56 pm
Heard the guys on 610 this morning talk about Scott Rolen at third for the Phillies next year. Almost hit a danged SEPTA bus head on.
Had no idea our outfield play has been that bad for so long. Somehow I kept vaguely thinking Vic Gold Glove made everything magical. Guess not, huh.
November 14th, 2012 on 4:51 pm
I’m going to be pretty surprised if Scott Rolen comes back to the Phillies. I think he would help, though, if the other choices are Frandsen and Galvis.
November 14th, 2012 on 6:41 pm
The fan base hates his guts. Would be a weird acquisition.
November 15th, 2012 on 10:18 am
If it makes the team better, I can get over it.
November 15th, 2012 on 12:06 pm
My problem with Rolen would not be the circumstances that led to his departure, but the circumstances that led to him having less than 300 ABs the past two years.
November 15th, 2012 on 1:41 pm
I think another problem is that when he has gotten at-bats over the last two years, he has hit 244/301/397.
I think it’s very, very unlikely the Phils would bring in Rolen. If they did it would surely be as a part-time player. They already have a right-handed hitting 3B in Frandsen. If they’re looking for a part-time solution at third, they need someone who can play defense and hit righties. Galvis can play defense and not hit righties. Frandsen was good against righties last year. There’s also a question of how many roster spots you should take up to fill your 3B position. Right now they look like they’re at two, which seems high.
November 15th, 2012 on 1:47 pm
Galvis, at least, will stand whereever you point and catch the ball if it comes to him. That’s not a bad quality to have in someone taking up a roster spot.
November 15th, 2012 on 3:39 pm
Yes, the man can catch the ball when hit to him, and usually do something smart with it, no question about it. If he could only hit .275.
November 15th, 2012 on 7:26 pm
Maybe if they let him hit against Venezuelan League pitching? Come to think of it, that could solve a lot of the problems for the Phillies (possible exception — Darin Ruf and his .238 winter ball average).