Comments on: Vance’s trance over the Rockies not enough to advance the cause of the Phillies http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/ A fan's Philadelphia Phillies blog Tue, 21 May 2013 02:18:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-78003 egrissom Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:56:20 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-78003 Yep. Nice win in the opener to get things started, even though the pen was awful, then they stink things up in the last two games of the double-header.

Bastardo scary. Qualls scary. Rosenberg embarrassing. Diekman not much better, walking the AL-pitcher with the bases loaded. Lee can’t get the job done. Mayberry huge strikeouts with men on third and less than two outs in both games yesterday. Manuel had a miserable game in game one. Kind of a bad day for a team that can’t afford many more.

]]> By: Jim http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-78002 Jim Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:39:45 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-78002 Seem’s like every time this team revives a bit of optimism in me, they turn around and find a new way to lose.

Utley should be back Wednesday/Thursday. Maybe we can put him in the bullpen.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77987 DaMannse Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:07:47 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77987 Sunday night. Pretty amazing the difference 24 hours can make.

So, what’s the deal with Cliff Lee.

]]> By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77981 egrissom Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:30:44 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77981 The bullpen was a little tough to watch, but at least it ended well. Nice time for Thome’s first hit of the year as a pinch-hitter. Wasn’t expecting a three-run homer from Pierre, either.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77968 DaMannse Sun, 24 Jun 2012 01:13:56 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77968 Saturday night. Pretty remarkable game. Thome sets the all time record for walk off home runs at 13. Thinking about that, it is pretty awesome.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77941 DaMannse Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:32:04 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77941 Still delayed. Can’t win that way.

]]> By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77939 egrissom Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:25:19 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77939 Also, the games where you start Cliff Lee and the other team has Jeff Keppinger hitting cleanup are the ones you want to try to win if possible.

]]> By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77938 egrissom Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:22:29 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77938 Me too. Not holding a 5-2 lead in the eighth his last time out wasn’t so great. He allowed more runs in that start (5) than he did in the ten starts he made in June and August on 2011 combined (3).

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77937 DaMannse Fri, 22 Jun 2012 22:25:12 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77937 In your first sentence you said a mouthful.

That is Amaro’s design. It does not make sense and has not. Hector Luna hitting clean up? Really? Or any other of the guys we thought had been acquired to “strengthen the bench”. Little did we know.

Well, I sure am going to be pulling for Lee tonight. Lord knows we need him to be who he has been in past years.

]]> By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2012/06/22/vances-trance-over-the-rockies-not-enough-to-advance-the-cause-of-the-phillies/#comment-77934 egrissom Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:36:21 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=7748#comment-77934 I think how big a problem the marginal players playing marginally is depends on how many of them you have. The Phillies have way too many and they’re playing marginally. It’s definitely a huge problem that the guys the Phillies were counting on, Rollins and Victorino in particular and Pence to a lesser degree, haven’t done enough. I think people who counted on Polanco to do more than he has done were being optimistic. Also, Ruiz has done way more than anyone should have expected, which helps off-set some of the awful offense from Victorino and Rollins.

I think it’s also important to remember that the hole the Phillies have dug for themselves has more to do with bad pitching than it does bad hitting.

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