Comments on: Goliath looking a little peaked after David knocks in four runs in his last two at-bats http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/ A fan's Philadelphia Phillies blog Mon, 20 May 2013 21:36:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58431 egrissom Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:42:47 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58431 I’d go Hamels back, Madson back, keep Brown and go with a Brown/Mayberry in left. Someone’s going to have to play first for a while to start the season, too (that’s my guess at least).

I don’t think they can bring Oswalt back unless he’s real cheap. I doubt he will be. I think the rotation goes Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Blanton, Worley.

I would bring Rollins back if he wasn’t too expensive, but I think he will be.

If they don’t bring back Rollins they really, really need a shortstop from outside of their organization. I’d guess there is close to no chance that Polanco can play short. I think he’s play eight innings there since 2002 and turned 36 yesterday. I think they have nobody in the organization who can handle either short or third except Polanco, who will almost surely handle third for 2012.

]]> By: Greg http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58427 Greg Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:48:49 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58427 Trading Brown now doesn’t make any sense to me as his value has never really been lower. I think he will be fine. His numbers last year are a lot better than anybody gives him credit for, especially June/July when he was starting to get healthy and have more regular playing time.

I’ve heard the Polanco to short thing before, but that is a disaster waiting to happen. He isn’t even a third baseman, let alone a shortstop.

The good news about Madson is that the market is flooded with closers this year, so the values should be relatively low, especially since he has so little “experience” in the role. I’ve heard 2/$14M in places, but that could be a pipe dream. If Rollins is willing to come back on a 3 year deal with a 4th option year that will vest with normal playing time, I’d be willing to do that. Decline Oswalt’s option and bring him back on a Carpenter-like deal (2/$21M).

Beyond that? I really don’t know. The team still needs to get younger and these moves don’t really do that. The pitching staff is fine, but the offense needs help. Some would say the pitching staff is better than fine, which is why I was thinking the team may look to trade from strength to shore up the offense.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58419 DaMannse Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:58:18 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58419 What to do, what to do. Let’s see. i think I would:
1. Sign Hamels.
2. Trade Brown for a third base propect of Brown’s supposed talent level. (Several reasons for this include that there are more outfielders than third basemen, and I do not believe Brown will ever play everyday.)
3. Tradeable guys who would bring serious value include Victorino and Pence. I’d explore what Victorino – who is in the prime of his career – would bring in terms of hungry, young talent.
4. Rollins cannot be signed for five years. For three, yes, simply because I cannot see anyone else available. Buy not for more than three.
5. Madsen is gone if he wants top dollar.

]]> By: Jim http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58415 Jim Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:12:39 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58415 Incidentally, the free agent third basemen do not make an inspiring list.

Wilson Betemit KC
Casey Blake LAD *
Eric Chavez NYY
Mark DeRosa SF
Greg Dobbs PHI
Edwin Encarnacion TOR *
Wes Helms FLA
Melvin Mora ARI
Aramis Ramirez CHC
Miguel Tejada SF
Omar Vizquel CWS

(* have option with current club for 2012)

]]> By: Jim http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58414 Jim Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:05:16 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58414 It needs fresh hitters. A productive Dom Brown would help.

I would:
- Extend Cole
- Decline Oswalt’s option
- Trade Blanton (for a bag of balls)
- Plan on a 2012 Rotation of Roy, Cliff, Cole, Vance, & Kyle.
- Give Madson closer money
- Let Lidge go
- Let JRoll go
- Let Ibanez go
- Give Brown the guaranteed Left Field job (confidence boost)
- Give Mayberry first (looks like Howard could miss all of next year – if Howard comes back, platoon Mayberry with either Brown or Howard)
- Move Polly to Short
- Sign or trade for a new third baseman, with actual power

.. for starters.

]]> By: Greg http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58412 Greg Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:10:49 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58412 Postmortem…where does the team go from here? This team obviously needs some offensive help and is up against it as far as signing free agents would go. It seems the most tradeable asset this team possesses is one Mr. Cole Hamels. Do they even go there? I don’t know if I like the idea, but I’m just trying to be realistic as well.

]]> By: egrissom http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58388 egrissom Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:53:33 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58388 That’s kind of a long list. Torn Achilles for Howard is really not good news. Let’s hope it’s not too long before we see him on the field again.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58387 DaMannse Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:28:57 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58387 According to channel 6, Howard Achilles tendon surgery when swelling goes down (recovery time unknown until after surgery) and likely surgery for Gload’s hip, Polanco’s hernia, maybe Pence’s hernia, Hamel’s elbow AND hernia.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58386 DaMannse Sun, 09 Oct 2011 00:51:00 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58386 Telling stat: In their last five postseason series, the Phillies have batted .231, .227, .212, .216 and .226.

]]> By: DaMannse http://www.philliesflow.com/2011/10/06/goliath-looking-a-little-peaked-after-david-knocks-in-four-runs-in-his-last-two-at-bats/#comment-58379 DaMannse Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:23:05 +0000 http://www.philliesflow.com/?p=4972#comment-58379 Wait till next year.

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