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Phils have the right Manuel for the job
By egrissom | July 15, 2008
Charlie Manuel has managed five full seasons and in each of those seasons his team has played over .500 in the second half. In four of the five his team has played to a better winning percentage after the All-Star break than they did before the All-Star break. It’s enough to make you wonder if pinch-running for Pat Burrell in the sixth, 322 at-bats for Abraham Nunez and turning Brett Myers into a DL-bound reliever is the way to go.
Here’s what Manuel’s teams have done in the five years he’s managed before and after the All-Star break:
|
Year |
Team |
Before AS |
After AS |
TOTAL |
| 2000 | CLE | 44-42 (.512) | 46-30 (.605) | 90-72 (.556) |
| 2001 | CLE | 49-36 (.576) | 42-35 (.545) | 91-71 (.562) |
| 2005 | PHI | 45-44 (.455) | 43-30 (.589) | 88-74 (.543) |
| 2006 | PHI | 40-47 (.460) | 45-30 (.600) | 85-77 (.525) |
| 2007 | PHI | 44-44 (.500) | 45-29 (.608) | 89-73 (.549) |
| TOTAL | CLE/PHI | 222-213 (.510) | 221-154 (.589) | 443-367 (.547) |
The record after the All-Star break with the Phillies is particularly impressive. In his three full seasons with the team the Phillies are 133-89 after the break (.600).
The Mets’ Jerry Manuel has also had success after the break. Jerry Manuel has managed six full seasons, all with the White Sox. In four of those his team played to a better winning percentage after the break.
|
Year |
Team |
Before AS |
After AS |
TOTAL |
| 1998 | CWS | 35-51 (.407) | 45-31 (.592) | 80-82 (.494) |
| 1999 | CWS | 42-43 (.494) | 33-43 (.463) | 75-86 (.466) |
| 2000 | CWS | 55-32 (.632) | 40-35 (.533) | 95-67 (.586) |
| 2001 | CWS | 41-44 (.482) | 42-35 (.545) | 83-79 (.512) |
| 2002 | CWS | 42-46 (.477) | 39-35 (.527) | 81-81 (.500) |
| 2003 | CWS | 45-49 (.478) | 41-27 (.603) | 86-76 (.531) |
| TOTAL | CWS | 260-265 (.495) | 240-206 (.538) | 500-471 (.515) |
The 1999 White Sox are the most curious thing there, going a miserable 33-43 after the break after playing a game under .500 in the first half. In Jerry Manuel’s defense, it’s tough to win when you give 55 starts to guys that end the season with an ERA over 6.00 (Jamie Navarro (27), John Snyder (25) and Aaron Myette (3)).
In other news, there’s nothing wrong with the Mets/Phillies rivalry that Chase Utley muttering an expletive in the general direction of booing fans in New York can’t fix. The phrase he chose, to borrow from Dave Barry, rhymes with “duck shoe.” Good news for Jimmy Rollins, at least, who could use the break.
Topics: Charlie Manuel, Mets |
July 15th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Since we have a little down time:
I dont’ think I ever saw comments from you on the Lidge signing. I love it…I know he won’t be this great for 3 years, but he is pretty damn solid. I mean…who is better than him? prob a list of about 3-4 guys that are no debate better. And will continue to be for 3 years.
You read some of his quote about K-Rod prob getting more $ and years and saying…’thats not me’ you have to like that.
Trades: What trades would you do right now…I know one thing. I don’t think we should get rid of Carrasco or Marson. Maybe I would have done Marson with others for CC, but thats about it.
July 15th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Lidge has been fantastic — hard to imagine where the Phillies would be without him this season. I think it’s a really good signing and good news for Phillies’ fans. He’s done way more than I expected this year, especially coming off the knee problem. The Phillies have the best pen in the league this season — I would have guessed the chances of that happening would have been about zero.
I would trade Carrasco (or Golson or Donald) but not Marson unless the Phils got back an elite pitcher. I think there’s still a good chance that Myers comes back in the second half of the season and can be the number two guy that the Phillies need.
July 16th, 2008 at 9:00 am
I would say the only two guys that are out there that are worth any sort of decent prospect are Bedard and Burnett. Everybody else that is talked about being available seems to pretty much be a lateral movement. If Myers can come back and bump Eaton from the rotation, that would be nice. Throw in a Bedard/Burnett to replace Happ and I’m a happy camper. I would think a trade of some combination of Cardenas, Donald, Jaramillo, Golson, and Happ (not all of them) would be enough to get either of those guys.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:10 am
didn’t they say Bernett declined a trade to Phillies…I also heard they tried hard for CC.
Agreed on Lidge and on Myers…good points.
Trades…I just don’t know…I want to feel like we don’t need someone else but deep down at this point I think we do need it…BUT like Greg says…logs of the moves are lateral.
July 16th, 2008 at 11:52 am
I did hear that about Burnett having a no-trade to the Phillies and that they tried hard for CC. My fear is that they will make a move for the sake of making a move and won’t really improve (Paul Byrd, Randy Wolf, etc). I do think they need a lefty in the pen though. Apparently Swindle isn’t the guy. They shouldn’t have to sell the farm for that piece though.